topic Re: CIM vs ARB (again) - double checking the limitations of each in Integration and Testing

CIM vs ARB (again) - double checking the limitations of each

thaddeusmt — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:52:39 GMT

I haven't yet found in the forums or documentation where this is verified. First, my problem:

I am working on a website that offers a number of different subscription options, and a user can have multiple different subscriptions at the same time, and can add or remove subscriptions at any time in any order.

I thought ARB at first to handle the recurring fees, but it seems like if the user wants to add an additional subscription at a later time they will have to enter their payment information again. So instead of "adding on" a service, they have to "purchase a new one". It seems better to use CIM for this so when they purchase an additional subscription they can choose from amongst previously used payment options and do not have to enter in their information again.

So, to simulate ARB with CIM we have to do our own scheduling, I understand this and it's not a problem. I just want to verify that to do this with CIM, we can just build a duplicate transaction and submit it at the stated subscription interval?

Assuming that we can build the XML transaction without additional user input and that the user has agreed to be "automatically rebilled until cancelled", we can do this? It is less work for us to use ARB, but we can achieve the same effect with CIM? CIM can really replicate automatic rebilling?

Also, just to make sure, we can't create a new subscription based on an old subscription with ARB without asking the user for their payment info again, correct? Becuase if we could do this we could probably still use ARB.

Thanks!

Re: CIM vs ARB (again) - double checking the limitations of each

Trevor — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:36:03 GMT

Yes, you seem to have everything correct. ARB subscriptions cannot be created without entering the customer's data again and CIM can be used to arbitrarily run any number of transactions. The only potential concern I see with your scenario is if a customer ends up with two identical payments running on the same day. In those circumstances, you would want to make sure to either run them at least 2 minutes apart or disable our duplicate transaction check. If necessary, the duplicate transaction check can be disabled by passing x_duplicate_window=0 in the <extraOptions> element in your CIM transaction request.

CIM v/s ARB

Qadeer — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:07:31 GMT

Hi,

Can i use ARB without CIM API??

My scenario is i am using SIM as basic api for transaction and want to implement

ARB..

Can i implement CIM & ARB both at a time..

And how can ARB get information about customer who's billing is recurring when

we dont use CIM..??

Re: CIM v/s ARB

RaynorC1emen7 — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:38:28 GMT

Can i use ARB without CIM API??

Yes they are seperate API.

ARB documentation

CIM documentation

My scenario is i am using SIM as basic api for transaction and want to implement ARB.

Again they are seperate API

Can i implement CIM & ARB both at a time.

Yes, it a seperate API.

And how can ARB get information about customer who's billing is recurring when we dont use CIM..??

You don't need CIM for ARB. Once you setup a recurring billing it will use that info.

SIM refund

Qadeer — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:55 GMT

Thanks,

And How shall i trigger the request to refund.

Is there any API which does the same??

am using SIM API,..

Re: SIM refund

RaynorC1emen7 — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:33:28 GMT

You can use the AIM API for refund.

Re: SIM refund

Qadeer — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:46:28 GMT

Thanks,.

Any sample code which does the same??

AIM sample code explains the submission of new transaction to authorize.net.

Re: SIM refund

RaynorC1emen7 — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:19:31 GMT

You should be able to change the transaction type on the sample code and pass the correct param

http://developer.authorize.net/guides/AIM/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=2_SubmitTrans.html#1094455

Re: SIM refund

Qadeer — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:52:42 GMT

Thanks will try it out..!!

Thanks again..

Silent Post Method

Qadeer — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:07:14 GMT

Hi,

I am working with SIM API and in the receipt page hosted by authorize.net we have a link by which we callback or

redirect to our site and track the status of the payment,.

My question is what if we dont click the link on the hosted receipt page.?

And i have even gone through the silent post method which solves my above question. but, again it needs a URL which is static in my case i cant have a static URL to track done the status,

Re: Silent Post Method

Qadeer — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:46:56 GMT

And my use case is like i am generating invoice as html and sending a link for the same to

my customers there i'll be redirecting it to authorize.net's hosted payment form

before redirecting from customer to authorize.net my customers will have my merchant account details,

i wanted to avoid having my customer access those credentials..

Kindly help..

Re: Silent Post Method

RaynorC1emen7 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:35:34 GMT

My question is what if we dont click the link on the hosted receipt page.?

then any code on your page will not get call.

And i have even gone through the silent post method which solves my above question. but, again it needs a URL which is static in my case i cant have a static URL to track done the status,

If you have a URL that get change on every orders, just DO NOT set ANY valid relay response URL on the merchant account.

before redirecting from customer to authorize.net my customers will have my merchant account details,

i wanted to avoid having my customer access those credentials..

Not sure what you mean. how would they have you merchant account credentials/detail?

Re: Silent Post Method

Qadeer — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:14:05 GMT

Oh! there's some confusion with ur answer.

Let me clarify,

1. We are on hosted Payment_Form (SIM API)

- Customer fills in form and clicks submit

- before going to reciept page can i get details of transaction made on STATIC address.??

2. on receipt page we can have a redirect buton by clicking it am geting all details accurately..

- No problem..

Re: Silent Post Method

RaynorC1emen7 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:38:21 GMT

1)Not sure about before(could be the same time), but silent post will get call when a transaction is created.

2)Only when silent post works, you might be better off with relay response.

Re: Silent Post Method

Qadeer — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:43:43 GMT

Ok,

I just wanted to confirm whether,

i can give silent post url on merchant interface directly, an absolute address like the following..?

http://localhost/ServerIntegration/ServerIntegration/TestingValues.php

As am working on local system..

Re: Silent Post Method

TJPride — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:01:32 GMT

The silent post page has to be publicly accessible or Authorize.net can't get to it. Localhost isn't going to work. Get a cheapo hosting account somewhere and set up a page that logs posts. Something like this, if using PHP:

$logfile = "{$_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']}/logs/callback.txt";
$handle = fopen($logfile, 'a');

foreach (array('fields', 'you', 'do', 'not', 'want', 'to', 'log') as $key)
    unset($_POST[$key]);

fwrite($handle, print_r($_POST, true));

Re: Silent Post Method

Qadeer — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:42:51 GMT

Thanks Silent Post Worked!

Can i send Silent Post URL via form submit ?

as we do form submit for SIM ( Payment_Form ),

i wanted to add up silent post url with other SIM API hidden elements.

if yes, what are the parameter which i should pass via form submit.?

Regards

Qadeer