topic ARB from prior tran instead of cc number? in Integration and Testing

ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

larrykluger — Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:22:53 GMT

The arb api doc requires a credit card number for new arb subscriptions.

See http://www.authorize.net/support/ARB_guide.pdf pg 10, CreditCard xml element.

BUT, the online merchant interface transaction detail screen on the web site enables an ARB Subscription to be created from a previous transaction.

I want to use the same capabiliy via an api--creating an arb subscription by sending a prior transaction id for a person. -- It would be also ok to use a CIM ref number.

Why: I want to create an arb without the credit card number passing through my system (to minimize PCI issues).

Is this possible now? Is it planned?

Thanks.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

TJPride — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 00:54:18 GMT

Sorry to ask stupid questions, but if you have a CIM profile ID / billing profile ID, why are you bothering with ARB? Just run a utility every morning that looks for charges coming due and then processes a charge against the CIM profile. ARB is a pain to implement properly anyway.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

larrykluger — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:59:05 GMT

@TJPride -- excellent point, I could do the monthly re-billing myself.

But I'd rather use the ARB system for a couple a bucks a month than re-invent the whole thing.

I haven't had any problem using the ARB API, it's in production now at one of my sites.

But I want to move out of the PCI scope--and current ARB api doesn't support that. I know that you don't feel that PCI has no value. We disagree on that issue, I think it has important marketing and paperwork value. I do agree that in many technical ways it is a fig leaf.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

TJPride — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:43:13 GMT

Well, if you can figure out how to do this, then more power to you. I'd be interested myself, since it would eliminate some code from my AIM / ARB implementation. I just rather doubt it's possible through the API, or if it is, the explanation of how to do it is hidden somewhere nobody will be able to find it. A lot of the documentation is like that.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

Michelle — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:11:37 GMT

Hey larrykluger,

Currently, when using ARB, the only way to create a subscription from a previous transaction is from within the Merchant Interface. You cannot submit a previous transaction ID via the API to start a subscription. You also cannot use a CIM profile ID to create an ARB subscription. CIM and ARB do not work together.

However, both of these requests have been requested from the community multiple times and we have passed that info on to our development teams.

Thanks,

Michelle

Developer Community Manager

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

larrykluger — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 00:59:02 GMT

Thanks Michelle,

Please forward this latest request msg on to the product manager--the squeaky wheel is the one that gets the grease.

Also, please pass on my thanks for the new hosted CIM feature of the api. I look forward to upgrading to use it.

--Larry

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

Michelle — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:45:06 GMT

You got it Larry! Thanks for the feedback too. :smileyhappy:

Michelle

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

reema14a — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:48:20 GMT

Hi Michelle

Has there been any updates on this?

Is this feature availablenow or will be in the near future?

As an alternative, can I just get the transaction details using Transaction API and then supply the retrieved details back to ARB Create subscription API. Issue seems to be that Transaction API returns Credit Card and expiration date in encrypted form, would ARB Create Subscription accept the encrytped form in the request for creating subscription?

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

TJPride — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:37:58 GMT

I think you can get Authorize.net to send you a dump of the credit card info by submitting a ticket through your account, then you can use that to create the profiles using regular CIM.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

reema14a — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:21:40 GMT

I am just trying to automate the steps that I am currently performing manually.

In current process,

STEP 1: I bill the customer using website A,

STEP 2: Customer billing details sent to Authorize.NET by website A.

STEP 3: A transaction id is returned to the website.

STEP 4: I login to Authorize.NET search the transaction id and use 'Create ARB subscription from transaction' link to setup recurring payments.

Now, I would like to change Step 4 to be done automatically using website B, which has knowledge of Transaction id only (retrieved from website A).

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

TJPride — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:59:49 GMT

Well, that's not going to happen. The only way to create an ARB subscription from a prior transaction is through the control panel. You could, however, use hosted CIM for everyone, even the people paying a one-time fee, which would allow you to charge them again at any time.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

reema14a — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:19:50 GMT

Even with CIM, how can I use the API to setup recurring payments. Please note that only information I have is the Transaction id that Website A received and I don't have access to Customer's Credit Card details as website A is probably using DPM and payment details are being stored on Authorize .NET.

I would like recurring payment step to be automated without any manual intervention of creating customer or ARB subscription from merchant login. Also note that I don't have code for website A to change any of the steps currently being done by website A.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

larrykluger — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:28:48 GMT

You'd need to write the sw to re-charge the customers every month via the CIM api.

Alternative is to use a subscription charges website such as chargify. They work with Auth.Net

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

Wetnose — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:49:21 GMT

I'm in the same boat. I've read in other forums that I would need to create an automated script that checks for the billing date and then submits a transaction through CIM. Unfortunately, my business is on a hosted web site (Ipower.com) and I don't know how to implement automated scripts in a hosted environment.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

TJPride — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:53:27 GMT

Virtually every hoster has some sort of automated task support, even on shared hosting. Log into your hosting control panel and do a find for "cron" or "automated" or something like that. If you still can't find it, call their tech support line and find out for sure if it's supported or not. Automated tasks are useful for a wide variety of things./

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

Wetnose — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:25:48 GMT

Found it, had to request Tech support to add "Scheduled Jobs" it was a pain at first, because the rep had no idea what I was talking about. Kept saying "We don't support this." I finally showed him an article about cron jobs and it clicked. Thanks.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

dei1c3 — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:14:25 GMT

I see Michelle's reply from 2.5 years ago about passing on the request to be able to created ARB subscriptions from previous transactions or from CIM profiles.

Has there been any progress on this?

Thanks.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

TJPride — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:19:23 GMT

If by progress you mean anything released to us, I don't think so.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

dei1c3 — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 21:32:35 GMT

Thanks, TJ. That's what I thought but just wanted to make sure.

Re: ARB from prior tran instead of cc number?

lakiman — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:50:06 GMT

Hi,

Any news regarding implementing the option in API to create ARB subscription from a prior transaction not older then 120 days?

Thanks

Lakiman